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  • 10-31-2007 7:29 PM

    Journal of an Inmates Wo-man

    We have journals from Inmatez wife and an Inmate, so I thought I'd put me out there since this experience has really emphasized there is strength in numbers. I feel like Prison Place is a perfect avenue because of the quiet dignity that permeates its atmosphere. Having a loved one in prison, turns your life "upside down" as my baby says. He is right. I had no idea that it was going to be so difficult. 

    My story is a little different because I met my lnmate after he was incarcerated. So why would I willingly allow my life to be turned upside down by a convicted felon who is currently in prison for five more years? After knowing him for almost 2 years, he has asked me to marry him. My answer has been a delayed yes. Many people think women like me have low self esteem. See http://marriage.about.com/od/questionsanswers/a/prisonmarriage.htm This report describes the characteristics of women who love and marry men in prison. It's not pretty. As for me, I am 2 classes away from a Masters degree and I strive to become the best me I can be. I am proud of me and I have put one child through college without the help of a mate. My family thinks I slink below me. They refer to inmates as those "prisoners", and believe their solitary time in prison enables them to become masterminds and  expert manipulators of womens' hearts and purses.   I believe I was clotheslined!

    I can not actually believe that I have fallen in love with an inmate! It's bad enough to date some of these so called men out here. Is it real love? Time will tell, but what this man gives me is worth the risks of possibly failing and/or finding out if this is the real thing. True Love, anywhere, is  hard to find and even harder to keep. I am hoping that this journaling will help me and others like me to work through this kind of trial and come out stronger. Let me tell you a little bit how I got here.

    Several years ago, a family friend went into prison for a weapons charge. Our correspondence was mixed up during his transfer and one of my letters went to another inmate with the same name. By the time I straightened it out, my address had been passed around several times and waiting. By the time my address got to the fourth strange inmate, I lost it! I wrote this man the most sarcastic letter and told him I was going to take him to school on the short bus. "Tell me why do you think a woman would want to have a relationship with a prisoner? You can't do nothing for me!" Which made him blow a gasket because many inmates who are in prison are illiterate, or attended some form of special education classes. He apparently went to the dayroom telling them about the female canine that spoke to him like he was less than a human. Intrigued, my man overheard him and asked if he could write me. it took me six months to return a letter, yet he kept on writing and finally got my attention. So we became friends, and later a romance grew.  

    Now that my love for this man is growing, I have learned so much about me. He says he repeats things to me because I have a tendency to gloss over things. Then he states he puts things on my plate in small bite sized pieces so that I can understand the gravity of what he is asking me to do, and that is love him unconditionally. Like an idiot, I thought what was happening was so exciting at first. Little by little, I am recognizing the emotional turmoil that having a loved one in prison brings to your everyday life. This is not easy or for the faint hearted as one woman told me. Running to your mailbox becomes a major focal point in your life. You worry and have many fretful nights. You truly begin to understand what this is going to cost you. Is it worth it? It feels like I have met my soulmate!  So again, only time and will tell.  I want to take my time and find the right path for this relationship. Our growth as individuals must accompany our growth as a couple. Can a woman truly find love in a stranger who is incarcerated? I am willing to take a risk and find out since this man has made me feel closer to him that I have to any other man in my life. We all know in and out, you can be lonely in a crowd full of family members and strangers.

     Today, my 30 year old niece had a stroke. She is not married and has no children. Thank God, she survived. Life is precious and there is power in using the choice to pursue true happiness no matter what others think. You never know how long you may have. So I deserve to pursue, share, and express unconditional love and find pleasure in doing so. We all do. As I share my journey with you, I open myself up and welcome any comments you have concerning this plight, good or bad. I am committed to do me whatever may come. You also help me and others by sharing your stories too. They are a great source of comfort. What do you think?   

    I call myself An Inmate's Wo-Man? Because for the first time  in my life, I feel like I am this man's, my mate's rib. He's my best friend. We are one. Without him, I feel like a part of me is missing. Having no control over this, leaves you with a sick feeling. Sometimes. Knowing God has blessed you drives you everyday! Without him, I'd be one lonely soul in a crowd of friends and family.    

    NileMusiq
  • 11-01-2007 5:26 PM In reply to

    Lightning [li] November 1, 2007: Journal of an Inmates Wo-man

    Feeling wary! Here's the article I mentioned in my last post (it was actually an answer to a question a friend had posed to the authors concerning her friend :

    Reasons Why a Woman Would Marry a Prisoner She Doesn't Really Know

    From Sheri & Bob Stritof,
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    Reasons Why a Woman Would Marry a Prisoner She Doesn't Really Know Answer

    Answer

    Although there are many reasons why women marry prisoners they really don't know, the statistics of such a marriage lasting long term once they are together on the outside are slim. These unions rarely succeed. There is usually a lot of conflict, including verbal and physical violence.

    Generally women who marry prisoners that they met through the mail or on their job while the guy was already in jail tend to be shy, have low self-esteem, consider themselves to be outsiders, have been victims of abuse, and they hunger for an emotional relationship.

    Reasons Why Women Marry Prisoners They Really Don't Know

  • Identification with aggressive personality
  • Rescue fantasies
  • An act of compassion
  • A way of showing sympathy for a political cause or for an outcast
  • A way to be the center of attention and in the limelight
  • Fills need to be needed and to feel important
  • A desire for danger or thrills
  • Out of a sense of rebellion
  • As a ticket to citizenship
  • Fills void caused by failure of, disappointment in, or lack of romantic relationships
  • Allows marriage and motherhood without having to deal with a husband everyday
  • There isn't much that you can say to this friend of yours to get her to change her mind.

    zSB(3,3)
    We recommend that she attend some pre-marital counseling sessions.

    Hopefully, some of the hoops and paperwork that prison marriages require will slow down the wedding process and she will realize that she is making a mistake.

    Keep in mind they also sponsor these links on how to spy on, keep, or stay with your husband in a sexless marriage. Which proves my point that again, true love is hard to find and even harder to keep. When you choose a mate, you are the only one you have to please. However you know the authors have a few points! At least for me, being human, I wondered if this was a game, was I being used, is this real, etc., etc., etc. So did he.

    The beauty of it all is that we face the same issues with relationships right outside these prison walls. That's why we go where most people dare to go. Or our love follows our loved ones in. Not all relationships with prisoners have started in prison. The prisons obviously hold people who have major issues in life. Out here you can't see them sometimes until you live with them. Or some of us still think if we support that person, he/she will change. 

    I have felt alot of ways the author listed, in relationships with men who were never incarcerated. Many men/women who appear to have their stuff together actually are lucky they haven't been caught doing something. I have also seen some pretty messed up marriages by some of what society deems to be the best of people! Disastrous!
    The idea is what you won't do, do for love especially if it's real! Life is an adventure and anything worth having, is worth taking risks for. For those of us who believe in God, his greatest commandment is to love.
    To acknowledge truth is to keep it real. That woman may be showing concern for her friend. How mature her friend is at making her own decisions is her responsibility. Ultimately, no one has the wisdom or the right to choose their mate and yours! Most people who try to pick for their friends often have problems with their own relationship themselves.

    Wo is me! I choose to be my loved one's Wo-man because of the spiritual and mental connection we have, that I have never experienced before. I'm grateful for that. 

     

    November 3, 2007 : Wo-Man's reason to marry her soul mate

    Wednesday night, my 31 year old niece, Tiffany, had a stroke. She is currently on life support fighting for her life. I need your prayers. Doctor's credit her fiancee, Adrian, with saving her life. He acted quickly and was able to get her help immediately. He refuses to leave her side, and seems so lost without her being able to talk to him. He is a former bad boy but now he has matured because of Tiffany's love and support for him. I am grateful that he loves her so much.  When I look at them, it is clear to me that you must follow your heart when God presents you with your mate. It is a life altering experience. Adrian was sent for such a time as this.

    Courtney and I have discussed everything under the sun. He has committed to be with me 'until his casket drops"! We know that in a  time of need we are willing to deal with sickness, disabilities and any insecurities that accompany those events. Right now I just want to enjoy the journey of getting to know him. As his personality unfolds and we continue to bond, I am awed by fact that God has sent me my soul mate. He uplifts me, encourages me, challenges me and also makes me laugh, among many other things.He also frustrates me and irritates me as I confront him on his militant attitudes and jaded macho views. He graciously accepts constructive criticism and just as gracefully stands his ground.  No other adult relationship outside of those Texas prison wall has ever felt so good. To comprehend its beauty once he is physically able to particpate in this relationship is mind altering, I can only imagine how precious and fulfilling it is going to be. We are so compatible that it flows naturally, and we have started doing projects together, pray together and financial planning together. If I die tomorrow and none of these things happen, I still will have been a better and happier person for having known him.

    When I look at Tiffany and Adrian, I know that people are sent to you for a reason.  Some people marry for a reason, let that reason be love.  it feels good to me!

    November 10, 2007 - Rebounding from a mini-stress session

    In the midst of all this turmoil on the outside, I had not heard from Tramaine for two weeks. (See, I'm happy now, because I love calling him by his middle name instead of his first, Courtney). Now, I am beginning to understand the emotions that are associated with loving someone is incarcerated. Hey, that I am even openly sharing this, much less owning this is a miracle in my life. My ex-husband stayed in jail and still frequents the revolving doors. He has been addicted to crack and cocaine for the last 26 years. When he went in, he knew not to call me for anything! He was a totally petty, cruel and selfish creature and I didn't see the point in spending extra money or a stamp on his problem. He was so scarey and out of control that once he bit me viciously on my shoulder like a dog. I knew then he was insane, and I lost all respect for him. Presently his children and I have not heard from him but once, in over 7 years. So, to engage intimately with a habitual criminal was a low in my book.

    So with this break in communication from Courtney, I found my mind tripping on numerous of scenarios. None of them pretty. I have heard so many horror stories about women meeting men and it turning into a nightmare, I was putting back on the armor.  Ok, I thought he's dropped me because I blasted him about his temper tantrum. See he was transferred, they lost his property, he lost his appeal but he snapped on me about one of my male friends, about one of my statements, you name it! I wasn't taking mess off him and I demanded an apology.

    But absence does make the heart grow fonder. As I listen to others' stories about weathering these storms I realize this is real ( as he constantly drills this saying into my head); this is normal, and I am beginning to empathize as I realize: Hey, I really do love this man. He is real! He is a beautiful person who deserves a chance. So I wrote him a letter shaming him for his reactions, a letter of affirmations and love even at the risk he didn't want to hear from me. I even sent him a third, little risque Halloween story.  Then I found out he was away at court getting hammered. I felt bad.   

    Well, Saturday, I had the sweetest most endearing apology a rapidfire response to my blast off letter. He said he was afraid to open the next two, but I am so proud God is changing me because I KNOW HE IS GOING TO GET THE BIGGEST PICK ME UP! I just want to go down on the record that I wrote all that good stuff before I got my apology. Love changes things! That's how I know loving him is a gift. So wrapping up week one of November, I'd say Good week in the life of an Inmate's Wo-Man.  

    November 14, 2007- Closing the gap for parents missing in action!

    I am exhausted! I have just left the Sheraton in Greensboro after a three day convention  for exceptional children and the best practices.  We shared an article about how parents are not involved. Their presence was sorely lacking at district-wide forum on school discipline.

     

    After running up and down 23 floors and in and out of classes that taught us the best practices to reach these children, I was a little discouraged. Over half my students are in therapeutic foster care or living with an elderly grandmother. The parents are absent due to addictions and being incarcerated. These kids have more than three strikes against them. I won’t get into the details but the disabilities are significant. It will take the collaboration of the school, home and community to help make these children successful in life.

     

    It’s hard without the help pf the parent. Their absence has taken a tremendous toll on the student emotionally and academically.  I would like to kudos for parents like an Inmatez wife for holding down the fort and pouring into their children, whom they are raising all alone. Kudos to me, too. I am now home listening to my Teacher’s Assistant tell me how difficult the children were because they just do not like changes in their routine. They have had enough inconsistency. I gear myself up to face them tomorrow.

     

    I think about my children who have been raised all by myself, as they have watched their biological dad go in and out of jail; off and on drugs. I think about my love for Courtney and his son whom he has left behind. His remorse is tremendous. He knows I am willing and able to help him close that gap when he is free and can make amends. I am thinking this as my TA winds down. Oh, by the way, she tells me “You have a new student but he had to leave today. He will be back tomorrow.”

     

    “Oh why? He was kicked out of his therapeutic foster home and they had to find him another before 5:00 p.m.”

     

    My work is cut out for me!  

     

    A day of low points, high points and epiphanies   
     
    Devil November 18, 2007: Are Prisons Driving Inmate’s Mad?Time Magazine: By JEFFERY KLUGER

    There's no such thing as a good day for a prisoner at the highest level of security within the Ohio State Penitentiary, a 504-bed supermax prison in Youngstown, Ohio. Every inmate lives alone in a 7-ft. by 14-ft. cell that resembles nothing so much as a large, concrete closet, equipped with a sink, a toilet, a desk and a molded stool and sleep platform covered by a thin mattress.
    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1582304,00.html
     

    Remember I was so worried after not hearing from Courtney for over two weeks. Being the typical loving woman on the outside, I was feeling neglected. After two weeks he wrote apologizing for the little blow-up he had while admitting he was venting where it was safe to vent because he was under tremendous stress. After reading his poem and then the Time article, I realize that that was an understatement.  Now, he is the first one who says he did the crime, he must do the time, and he got in a fight with a CO. Yet his tough exterior is beginning to crumble. Alfred W. McCoy, a professor of history at the University of Wisconsin at Madison and author of the book A Question of Torture, states, "solitary confinement sends prisoners in one of two directions: catatonia or rage." I hope he is not going mad! Here’s the poem he sent me from administration segregation.

                                                                                         Rambling Poor Soul

    By

    Courtney Brock

     

    Confined to a restroom 24 hours a day! Damn right I’m a loner

    w/no property

    Looking real stupid, like a meaningless dance in the corner!

    Damn, what’s really going? Pacing like a ragin lion, ready to explode.

    To hell w/sanctions, too much pressure! Like Death Row

    God help me, help the kid! Exhale/download or upload!

    Sorry! What was I thinking? Upgrade!

     

    You have to be kidding me, how can a human endure this or survive this?

    A mental breakdown, some form of aberration or become a taker of pills would be normal. Bring for one, some form of bliss! Right?

    Yes! By all means to a cloudy inclination or intellectualization!

     

    But I don’t like pills, hate how they feel in my mouth. Makes my tongue want to shout:

    OK! *** you then! See it for yourself miserable ***, pout!

    Love to see the Strong Ebony breakdown!

     

    In their solitude, I know they reveal, God shows me their evil! The blood drips from their gums, down their teeth to the edge of their crusty lips!

    At times I can hear him, I smell him. I feel him surface: in my body, in my blood, in my soul! Keep testing him! Keep testing him!

    I take a deep breath, shake my head. Then lower my gaze to the tattoed fist at my sides. Kiss them & say to myself, they have naught a clue!

     

    But is it worth it Courtney? No, seriously! Is it worth it Tramaine?

    I mean I’m lost, I know not what to do! I love you! For God sakes, our first anniversary! 

    My most gorgeous wife’s presence whispers and pleads!

     

    26 years, gyved w/prisoned thoughts & prisoned pain, more than a gangsta taking it overboard. Love w/strings. But this real profound love is more than just a love, want or one’s desire & belief, God screams!

    It’s a need! And my plan! Boy!!! Clown!!!

     

    OK! OK! Big Homie! Just chill! By the way, have you taken your heavenly prozac this morning? Ok! Ok! I’m just tripping.

    I know I’m cool when He laughs! That’s my “trigga”, even though He’s God, He don’t trip, or act stuck up, or high cap! 

     

    Love my freestyle flow. I’m platinum but not near his level. Oh you didn’t know God was a fool on the “mic”? Well who do you think taught me how to rap?

     

    My Queen I’m sorry for blasting off on you because of these laws! I shouldn’t have, but it gets hard w/no jam box & just talking to walls! Yes by all means take more pictures of yourself the boys & the house. I’d love to leave this horrendous place into your pictures! You’re right, don’t get comfortable in that house, because your comfort zone is down south! Houston!

     I love MY beautiful & strong backbone!

     CakeCakeHigh Points: saving the good for last
    Today is my son Carey’s 18th birthday! My niece's, Tiffany, b-day was the 15th and she is talking & moving after her stroke. God is Good. We are going to be alright!   
     
     
    November 24, 2007: Turning pain into power
       
    life without a cause causes problems, so fight the good fight
     
    November 24, 2007: Turning pain into power The Thanksgiving holiday is over and I am back to thinking without the extra sprinkling of "obligatory camaraderie" :) Actually, I turned down my late night dinner with friends because I was most content to finish my night out with my kids and entertainment. Yet, my thoughts and my son's thoughts were: "Why did we spend so much money on a one night dinner based on a concept that is difficult to see everyday? So we were back to JPFree's and CeCe's thoughts on the difficulty of holidays.  I told him cause it felt good and you had to eat the next day anyway. But when I woke up this morning, those thoughts that I had put on the backburner of my mind came rushing back. Everybody is back to status quo, bad and good. So I started pondering the reason why I am in the "prison game". There were many, but I will only concentrate on a couple. Now matter how many degrees of separation we want to stress about our experiences, whether we knew our loved one before or after prison, we all have something in common; we can identify with the life. Many of us out here are in prison mentally.  We all know someone who has gone, is in, should've been, or could've been in since we were children. Prison is not exclusive to any race, or economical background. Look at Lindsay Lohan, Keyshia Cole and other celebs. Whether you have money or not, the effects of prison are unpleasant and downright painful. Sometimes money just gives  you the power to act up more from the prison in your mind.  When our mess shows, sometimes we portray a mentality that is weaved into the undercurrent fabric of society, we beak it down into "my situation is better than yours". I choose to look it from an analyst point of view. How did I (we) get here and how do I (we) help alleviate the problem. I know some people will only be concerned about those in their inner circle, but I am compelled to take a stand. That means not everybody is going to be happy with my conversation. Know what I found out? Most people don't care if they make you happy, and it is a impossibility to make a decision that will make everybody happy. Freedom is great! So I must vent. A lot of people are in prison because not caring whether you were able to or not, has its vicious cycle and it's consequences. You can take that statement micro or you can take it macro. For my people in my world, they deliberately judge people and their love for an inmate as "mental' yet many of those people are involved with alcoholics, were drug addicts, adulterers, etc., etc, etc. Which creates a whole set of dysfunctional behavior. My first heartbreak was seven years old, going to visit my father with my nine year old sister. His neighbor told us that he was gone to prison because he couldn’t pay child support. We cried all the way home. A lawyer in Chicago and statistics quoted in Juvenile programs all across the country state that 80% of children with incarcerated dads are at risk for the same future. That would include behavior that if caught, could send you there. Those who don’t get caught play like they never were there, but they don’t trust the prisoner because they know what was inside of them.  One thing we all have in common is that we don't stop procreating while we are doing these things so we pass these behaviors and dysfunctional coping skills to our children so the problems multiply and repeat themselves. I know as I watch Keyshia Cole struggle to use her resources to put her family on a healthy, loving and prosperous track, you can see the pain in her face. I have mad respect for her and pray she makes it and keeps herself intact above all. As I talk to my family, friends, and acquaintances, I can’t help but notice that most behavior resembles an intricate dance routine to keep the pain away. At times it feels good, but at other times it’s tiring as hell. At the end of the day why do we look or feel like people do when they walk off the dance floor of some bumping club all sweaty, disheveled, and crazy-happy? Cuz we know what we did before the dance, why we needed to dance, and what is waiting for us after the dance.  As children, are parents’ decisions and behaviors destroyed parts of us. In turn we did the same things to ours. I want to reach people no matter where they are at. If one makes me feel better than anyone I hate ever encountered in life, I want that person around me, good and bad. Real love you don’t pick and choose. It’s most valuable when it is unconditional. Hey if you fall short of the mark, you get up and try it again, or make amends if possible. If narrow is the way, you are going to get separated for good anyway if you don’t fight the good fight.  Hey, I know why we celebrate holidays not matter what we are going through, “to take a day off from the battle!”   That’s why I want to be a part of the solution. God’s given me a mission, I must get to it. All nay sayers get back! Love is a battle field, and I picking my weapons back up. I am sure looking forward to Christmas though!        

    December 8, 2007

    just not feeling it today!

    Is it a pity party I want?  Not really, this is the part in the movie where the heroine gets weary. I am resentful of the fact that I love someone who is unavailable. So I have always shared my feelings with my man and he has always told me to go forth with my life 100%. I am lonely just as he points out and he gave me the option to date but to let them know about him so that theyare aware that this is just a physical thng only. He stressed he is not telling me to date, but that if I feel the need please know he loves me and he is there for me and is not going anywhere. That he understands and is sad because he can not be here to hold me theway I need to be held. (I know it's a big strong front he would snap) yet he dared me to at least talk to men who come into my circle so that I can test and see what God is saying to me about him i real.

    Soooo.........I have met several men who are interested and I found their conversation just as interesting. Then the novelty wore off and I knew exactly what Trae had been saying to me all along. There is none who can compare. So, this mean I will be in a unfulfilled state waiting for him to come home to me. Now is that anyway to have to live? So i have asked myself to assess my life outside of this relatonship and I have begun to complete my dreams and it is getting exciting. I am starting my business, and God has brought people, amazing people into my path. I am thankful. Yt, I am looking at my man with my head tilted to side....This is an intelligent man.Yeah, he knew way before I did what he was asking me to do and he knew the pain, joy and sacrifice I would endure. I am not sure if i can appreciate that right now. As a matter of fact, you could say I am having a temper tantrum. Joy comes in the morning they say. Looking forward for this day to end.

      
              
     
     

    NileMusiq
  • 01-23-2008 1:33 PM In reply to

    Re: Journal of an Inmates Wo-man

    You can only have happiness by chances.

  • 03-28-2008 5:07 AM In reply to

    Re: Journal of an Inmates Wo-man

    Hey Cherry bell!

    Great to hear from you. yes, it seems s though you can only have happiness by chance. But I am learning that God actually has a plan for my life, if I don't get myself sidetracked too much. I just came off a big one, why I paused my journal writing to discover what I was beingpresened with. I learned even more about myself. I know that God's plan for me is for me to find love, and peace and all the other fruits of the spirit. It is not easy but this man, my Courtney, my unfortunate inmate, is one with my spirit and if I keep my eye of this beautiful fact, (like keeping my eye on the prize) I will be rewarded with unspeakable joy!!!! So some pleasures have been planned for you before you were born, doesn't that thought bring such happiness! Yeah!

    Thanx for your comment 

    NileMusiq
  • 07-28-2008 4:16 PM In reply to

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    Re: November 1, 2007: Journal of an Inmates Wo-man

     I can not believe I found this site this afternoon, as this morning I was reading the SAME CORRECT thing. My god, I can't believe that!!!

     I, myself met my husband over 6 years ago while he was serving his life sentence. I choose where or who I want to be with.Not because of all these so called reasons, which is really way out there and I sure do not agree with any of the crap I read on that site. I am saying thank you for posting that and to let me say, I think some people will never ever understand any measure of lenghts you will go to to be with the person which whom you fall in love with.

  • 07-28-2008 6:19 PM In reply to

    Re: November 1, 2007: Journal of an Inmates Wo-man

    Dear Texas: Oh goodness!

    Where do I start. I have not written in this journal for quite some time. I have had so many enlightments that I only can share them with someone whom understands. I HOPE YOU DO WHAT IS IN YOUR HEART! It is the bottom line that some men just do ot belong in prison; that their sentences do not match the severness of the crime. I have met men in prison who are holding their woman down within their limits. Sending money to help with the household. Sharing court information so that their mate can understand and believe their side of the story. These are all marks of a true man.

    My heart has taken a new direction, it is on me now..more than Courtney. I have also kept him as a friend but nixed the marriage plans. When I got the full revelation, I realize I, me, not you, was too accustomed to the unavailable lover. I was conditioned that way from childhood. So I am breaking my mold. Courtney still loves me, but some things he promised within his grasp, he could not deliver. Make your man aware that he must never make promises he can't keep. In light of the fact that he is in prison and he depended on me for practically everything, he should have returned the sacrifice and consideration. As a black female, now I have no tolerance for a mama over-coddled man, inside the prison and/or out. See that is a cultural thing with us. So if you are going to be about, then BE ABOUT IT! So, I respectfully and lovingly changed our status and I am still waiting on my soul mate.

    This was in areas of money, intellectual property, etc., etc. etc. I am not one to take excuses if I am sacrificing, as hard as I work and as strong as I am. Courtney missed his opportunity. He still is a great man, but not the MAN! He still is my best friend, but I can now draw the line between friend and mate, and head. So if your man is all that he says he is, you are blessed and he deserves your love and you his. Go for it! and be blessed.

     

    NileMusiq
  • 08-04-2008 10:30 PM In reply to

    Re: November 1, 2007: Journal of an Inmates Wo-man

    I am curious as to what happened to make you feel this way? 

    I have been in a 2 year relationship and I'm beginning to wonder if it is really love or just that "I love being in love".  I do believe he loves me and I do love him, however there are times I feel like I am the one doing all the giving.  To me it's the little things that someone does that means so much to me and he can't even seem to do that.  He wouldn't even talk to me on the phone because it was "too hot".....  He even asked me if I'd talk to him while sitting in a sauna and I said Yes and he said, yea you probably would.  But then he gets upset with me because I do not understand that he is hot and doesn't want to talk.  Am I being the idiot here? 

    Sorry for going on but I suppose I just wanted to hear a response from someone who has been "in love" with an inmate.

  • 08-05-2008 12:49 AM In reply to

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    Re: November 1, 2007: Journal of an Inmates Wo-man

    hello loveisfree..and hello to wo-man,,,i also am very much in love with in inmate,and iam very sorry to hear that wo-man is no longer feeling the same as she did,but time will always tell the true love theory,!.i can actually say that and can say that i am truely in love with man,let me tell you my story....Me and my( i call him my angel)angel.meet so many years ago,we grew up together just around the corner from each other.tho he is just a bit older than me,we was friends back then all those years ago.during his teenage years he was a bit of i wild child,as you can tell it landed him where he is now.but we did do the basic teen thing,we hung out and went swimming and all the stuff teens do,with the group of friends that we had then,everyday teen stuff.but we did manage to notice each other but never really acted on it,an still remained friends.well i got sent to a boarding school,and he got sent to a different town to stay with family.and we lost contact with each other,this is when i was around 16 or so when we was seperated from each other.And back then i had the biggest crush on this boy,let me tell ya,little did i know he felt the same about me.and as time went on,i got married and had kids,and had the typical outside life,but always in the back of my mind i thought about him on a regular basis.well i had heard thru the grape vine of friends and relatives.That not to long after he turned of age that he had gotten into some trouble,which got him 25 years to do in a max security prison of the state that we live in.hearing that news broke my heart so much,all i could do was sit and cry for days on end.thinking to myself that i should have told him how i felt and tried to make something happen between us,but we was just kids then.And as time passed by i wondered if i was ever going to see him again,i looked for him and had no sucess in doing so.Until one day while visiting my mother in a nearby town,i ran across his mother,and what do you know.She told me that he was also looking for me as well,so i gave her my contact information and told her to have him get a hold of me,needless to say i was very excited and happy to see her and hear he had been doing the same.Well days and weeks went by and i had not heard from him,so i thought well maybe he didn't want to hear from me.So moving thru my everyday life tasks,i trudged on still with him on my mind,like any other day.And just out of the blue on my birthday i got a phone call,and it was him,was one the most best birthdays i could have ever had,and then i got letter after letter,which still goes on to this day,and this was one year ago.now my birthday aprroaching now. we will have been together for a year.all in that one phone call we told each other what we should have told each other all those years ago.he has been in there 15 years and and all that time we could have had,was lost to us.This from not telling each other our feelings for one another,but now at least we have contacted each other it has been a dream come true,for the both of us.And in this year we have been thru so many trial and tribulations that an every couple must go thru,granted the long distant relationship has taken its toll on both our lives,i honestly do believe that it is worth it,nothing can break the hold that love has on either of us.what we have..has stood the test of time..that is what he told me,and i do believe that,my heart feels the same as the last time we was together, if not stronger now.and at the begining i said i called him my angel,because he has saved me in so many different ways,i can't even begin to tell you how many.And i do believe that god sent him back in my life to help me,just as i am helping him in his.so yes he was sent from heaven to me,that is why he is my angel..i drive 6 hours evry week to see him,and i don't mind doing it because my heart tells me that this man truely does love me as much as i do him,and it shows when we are together for the short time that our visits last..and you talked about when he says that it's to hot to talk,i understand where you are on that,believe me.It broke my heart to hear him tell me that for the first time,like he didnt want to talk me after all our time we had lost and he can't sit there for 5 minutes to say a few words to me.that was not the case,yes it very hot in the phone cubicals that they have to sit in,and you must remember that they do have alot of things on their minds also.Being inside the walls takes tolls on them as well,in ways you or i will never understand.My angel tells me to be patient and understanding with him,that its not that he doesn't wanna talk,is just dealing with alot on his mind.So i do,and at visit we talk,he tells me things,we are more than just together as a couple we are best friends,lovers,partners in all we do.....now that i have rambled on about me....i think if you listen to your heart you will find the truth,me and my angel have been together this long,and most couples never make it this long.i have seen them last no more than a 6 or so months then they finally get tired of being in the situation they are in,and yeah its hard not being able to go home at night and him being there,or him stopping by at work just to tell you he loves you.,things like that are what we are used to,it takes differnt level of love to be iwth someone that is in prison,the brief hugs and quick kisses at visit,when all you want to do is spend the whole visit holding him in your arms.i know i'm right there feeling tha same as all the rest of the women that are in love with an inmate.and yes it is the little thing that gets to me also,he holds my hand,he looks in to my eyes and tells me he loves me,just looking at him ad seeing the beautiful smile that he has always had,and sharing a bag of chips,just little every day things mean so much.and getting the letters that say just thought i would write to say i love you,just knowing that my angel loves me that much to even write it or say it,means the world to me.and at times it does seem that i give more than i recieve,but when looking at the big picture,he gives me just as much by just loving me and my kids with all his heart.because in there they can't raelly give a wole lot in return,and it's just men that don't show a a whole lot of emotion in general.plus in there they are programed to be tough snd not show a softer side,you know what i mean.but look at it this way if he really didn't want to talk,he would not have even took the time out to sit there and talk anyway,even if all he did was complaining.so in closing girl,just be patient and undrstanding with him,there are lot of girls out here having to do the same,if you and him are truely in love you two will always find a way to make it work out.me and mine do all the time,its a hard road to follow,but love does help you thru it all.i'm going to go..cause i think this is long enough for now,.just rambling on about things,haha..later girl..hope you do find an answer in heart...once you take a deep look..and i hope this does help..you are not alone in loving a man in prison we know what your feeling also...we are like kindrid spirits in this. .  god bless and look into your heart before you end a thing that could be something beautiful in the end.

  • 08-05-2008 1:17 PM In reply to

    Re: November 1, 2007: Journal of an Inmates Wo-man

    Tru-luv....thank you for the reply.  When is your birthday?  Mine is coming up too!!!  And that reminded me of last year when I didn't have phone service for him to call me but he had talked to my mom and made sure I would be there and he called me on my birthday.  He even had his friends tell me Happy Birthday.  They told me how much he cares about me and talked about me all the time.  He also sent me two cards, one of which he made and a tshirt he had painted on.  He is such a sweetie, but sometimes I guess things just wear on me out here and there are times I wish he would do some more of those little things anytime of the year!!!!  We have talked many times about how God brought us together for a reason.  We have a bit of an age difference with him being younger, but he is so mature and intelligent.  At about the 2 year mark I told him I had decided to be totally faithful to him, and he told me on a visit that he didnt' want me to stop living my life.  Honestly it hurt me, but I do understand he was being thoughtful towards me.  However, I have to say, it is NOT meant to be....I have been stood up 4 times by 3 different guys so I'm done even thinking about seeing others and besides he is the only thing on my mind because I do love him so much and I'm a one man woman!!!!!!!   I get to see him tomorrow, I am so excited!!!! 

    I'm happy for you and your "angel".  Thanks again....also is there a way to send "private" messages?

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